The F-150 is offered with different wheelbase lengths and each wheelbase will have a different size driveshaft to reach the axle and rear differential. With the 9 inch it uses a 50 inch. All our drive shafts are shipped via UPS Ground with Free Shipping. Hollanders Interchange manuals gives the length on a LOT of the driveshafts. lol I think that I am going to get it shortened and use it and then sell my friend mine lol The guy ended up selling it to me for $75, I figure that is not too bad of a price once I factor in the gas and the price for shortening it down. Then push your transmission yoke all the way into the transmission. The stock-size U-joint is likely a 1310-series, so upgrading to 1330-series would be the first step, with a 1350-series being the best choice for anything with substantially increased power. My friend found a driveshaft and he is not sure if it will fit his car and the guy only knows how long it is so I am trying to help him out. If the U-joint is truly bad, it will make this noise, but if it is in good shape, the noise is likely a result of improper rearend backlash, worn differential side gears, or loose rearend bearings. :tup: 85 Ford f250 Anyone ever had this problem? $329.95. The length at full droop is 40 1997 cc lb 4x4 5 speed tymar 4 inch diamond eye straight pipe, 20 inch Eagle Alloy polished wheels,power hungry 6 pos tuned for stage 1's,idm mod,8000k H.I.D's. 4'' icon front super duty springs with sky 5'' rsk. Oh well, hopefully tomorrow it will be good to go. Does anyone here have a listing of common driveshaft lengths, I'm looking for a donor shaft that'll work in my Son's 70 Nova with Ford nine inch conversion. The standard driver shaft length for men is 43.5 inches when the shaft is steel. Come join the discussion about performance, builds, modifications, reviews, engine swaps, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Write down these measurements and bring them to our shop for your new drive shaft. This Ford Drive Shaft will carry the necessary torque with ease. That will be the standard for measuring these for our purposes. Posted by Paul on 10th May 2018 Very easy to order. Driveshaft balancing is very important and often overlooked. Simple, no hassle and headache free! CC: On a driveshaft, how critical is U-joint phasing?DD: Phasing is very important, and that is why we take great care to have the two U-joint phased exactly the same. T-Bucket Drive Shaft Kit for Ford C4 Transmission (1) Material Type: Steel. Please send us an E-MAIL requesting the measuring sheet and give us your complete name and address and we will be happy to send it out by US. T-Bucket Drive Shaft Kit for Ford C4 Transmission. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The shaft is shorter. d'oh!). Ford also defined the critical speed estimation to identify driveshaft and gearing requirements for production. I am in need of one that is 52"-52.25" preferably Ford. NOTICE! Most FORD vehiclesuse Diagram "B" but some may use Diagram "K". We only use the solid-body, non-greaseable Dana/Spicer brand on all of our driveshafts because you cannot find a stronger or better made U-joint in any other brand. Measure the outer diameter of the driveshaft yoke. How to Measure a Driveshaft with Two Flange Yokes Driveshaft for a 1998 Chevrolet Astro. You should measure the Drive shaft from the weld to weld. In addition, we had just installed a new 400-plus-horsepower small-block, so it was time to upgrade to a new, heavy-duty, 3-inch-diameter driveshaft. Measuring Driveshaft Length on a One-Piece Driveshaft Drive shaft measuring gets easier with a one-piece driveshaft: Start by making sure the weight of your vehicle is on the springs. Follow along as we highlight the basics of the measurements required to be able to build a proper driveshaft for your vehicle. Write these measurements down and bring them with you to our shop so that we can provide you with the correct drive shaft. Driveshafts also come in different diameters based on the towing rating of the truck. Swap out that heavy stock driveshaft for a lightweight aluminum Ford Performance driveshaft. In goes the new heavy-duty driveshaft from Denny's Driveshaft. no we have like 3 stock steel ones laying around. My best guess is the engine is making around 600-650hp. With the old driveshaft removed, measure the distance between the end of the transmission tailshaft housing and the leading edge of the rearend housing yoke. A forum community dedicated to Ford Mustang owners and enthusiasts. lately he has been able to take my dimensions, grab a used drive line out of a pile and make me a good modified used one at much less than new one. CV is 1350 series 1 ton. I can clearly see the spot where they added on. For the record, 67 mustang with 289 and C-4 and 8 inch rear, measures 51 inches from c/l of u-joint to c/l of u-joint. The yokes on it are fine, that was actually the first thing I checked. For 4X4vehicles see Diagram "B", Diagram "G" and Diagram "K". Unfortunately, too many driveshafts are sent to us to be balanced that already have been to one or two driveline shops only to find out it is worse after they are done with it. Simply bring it to your supplier and theyll measure it for you. CC: How much should the front yoke of a driveshaft engage the output shaft of the transmission?DD: The slip yoke should be able to go into the tailshaft of the transmission so the barrel is fully inside the seal. profile | register | preferences | faq | search, Posts: 3285From: douglasville,ga,usaRegistered: Mar 2001, Posts: 48752From: Saco, MaineRegistered: May 99. Same for the 95 Ranger front shaft going to a '95 Ranger front axle. Welcome to the Ford Mustang forum built for owners of the Mustang GT350, BOSS 302, GT500, and all other S550, S197, SN95, Fox Body and older Mustangs set up for open track days, road racing, and/or autocross. I'm looking for a 47-47.5" driveshaft and have finally found one. My needed length with the trucks weight on axles is 38. To learn more about how Steeda can help you have a safety and peach in mind when going full send, contact one of our performance specialists for more information or order today! All Ford Mustangs | Model Specific Forums, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. 4130 alloy steel is 7,110 rpm, and a 4-inch diameter 7075 aluminum shaft is good to 8,170 rpm. For the sake of comparison, a 50-inch-long driveshaft made of 3-inch diameter mild steel has a critical speed rating of 6,050 rpm. This may be because of the parts, the workmanship, or it may be as simple as the equipment that was used to balance the driveshaft is out of calibration or incapable of detecting problems that will act up at an rpm that is higher than they can spin it to. 311 S. Brandon St. 2019 Ford Ranger STX FX4, Super Crew, 2.3L Ecoboost, 10 speed automatic, 3.73:1 with rear locker, Leer 100XR cap . cmaurer1 said: Just the length of the shaft. Measure the U-joint width on the rearend housing yoke. Does this indicate that the U-joints are about to fail?DD: The noise is transmitted by the driveshaft, but the driveshaft likely isn't the cause of the noise. Appropriate horsepower range is up to 500 in circle track or road racing, small tire drag racing and 44. Maybe i'll go to a salvage yard and see what i can come up with. But in my original post, I put that I am looking for a ds for a 32V swap in a ranger pick up. JavaScript is disabled. I went and got it Friday evening. Speedway Motors . Dorman Drive Shaft Sell Sheet - Spanish. 1 - 11 of 11 Posts. Phone: 1-866-933-2911. Please No Off Topic. But, if your vehicles driveshaft has been removed or severely damaged, then you will need to manually measure the space under your vehicle where the driveshaft once was. Alright Center to center of the U joint it is. There is absolutely nothing wrong with U-bolts. Feb 25, 2005. Jan 18, 2006. If you need immediate assistance Please call (716) 875-6640 and one of our tech advisors will instruct you on how to measure. Shaft as seen in the pictures and charts. I will definitely tell them. CC: Because chromoly steel is stronger than mild steel, can the wall thickness of a chromoly driveshaft be thinner to reduce weight?DD: If you have a 3-inch OD mild steel tube driveshaft that has a 0.083-inch wall thickness, it will be the same weight as a chrome-moly tube driveshaft of the same dimension and thickness. You may find that when you change the damaged U-joint, that one (or both) of the caps held by the U-bolts are distorted. Measure the distance between the tail shaft face (see diagram) and the face of the rear yoke. Moreover, being that it is rotating incredibly fast, the driveshaft must be in proper alignment with proper balance to avoid harsh vibration during operation. http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/A4LDto5Speed.html, http://www.ebay.com/itm/150963264288?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649. Terms of Service. Even if you don't want to post, you can still 'Like' and react to posts. Since the lengths are the same between the transmission, the transfer case linkage bolted right back on. CC: Most original driveshafts were a "seam tube" design, meaning that the steel was rolled into a tube and then welded. Drive shafts are found in automobiles, heavy duty . For business hours see our contact us page. In addition, count the number of splines on the output shaft. Mopar Slip Yoke Driveshafts PartNo Years Dia" Length" Trans Rear Engine Body. lol. Most of you with CAR or 2 Wheel Drive truck applications will use Diagram "B" and Diagram "C". Autos are LONGER? I'm happy , hes happy, usually done quick and easy. If I can't find an oem one off of a donor car I'll get one made but figured I'd look around a little first. Doing myself a disservice going 3.73 over 4.30 on 7.3L gas dually? Step #4. I have a few quick questions based on the front driveshaft. Posts: 8198From: So. 2007 FORD F650XL Super Duty (White) - 69,000 miles. year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. Would this even work out? My truck has a 117 inch wheel base and regular cab with short 6 and one half foot box. Some had very small bolts no larger than valve-cover bolts, and they broke easily. FRPP driveshafts are the same part# for both cars, M-4602-G. but i'll measure it anyway. Become a Partner. How long should the drive shaft be? Use the filters below to help you, find your driveshaft. 3) Measuring weld to weld is the standard method, not measuring from the center of the cap holes like you did. I'm debating on just shortening the stock driveshaft vs buying a new upgraded one. CanadaRegistered: Jul 2001, ------------------'70 ragtop Stang"I live my life 16.090 seconds at a time", Posts: 29200From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99, ------------------Alex DenysenkoCo-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA memberNHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28Part time secret agent license #0089 US Class Nationals link, -------------------Charlie Ping1970 Maverick Grabber[emailprotected] with AC and overdrive.http://www.maverickgrabber.com. My 67 with the C4 and 8 inch was 51 inch from center of u joint to center of u joint. Please notice this is a brand new message board, and you must re-register to gain access. Hey guys I have a question. Probably cost less than a replacement shaft. It is lighter than my aluminum driveshaft and a good ten inches longer as well. It is sorted by length to help with interchange. Email: techsupport@dormanproducts.com. Equine/Bovine Ultrasound Machine for sale! The correct length is approximately 50-51" (mine measured (49.75") measured center to center of the universals. Note the measurement on the tape measure to determine the length of the driveshaft. Not weld to weld. But in recent times, 45 inches has become the standard. You can keep your motor but the trans usually has a different tailshaft for 4x4. Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. Please join us at our NEW Mustangsandmore.com forums located at this location. xitabl442 G-Body Guru. These measurements are not ultra precise, but are fairly close. The shorter driveshaft length is . It is a custom piece. Thanks everyone for your advice. Privacy Policy. This is the main reason I was trying to find a full d/s that I didn't have to shorten/rework etc. Now push your transmission yoke all the way into the transmission. For remanufactured units we also provide you with a prepaid shipping label to send the old driveshaft back so you can get your core deposit back quickly. I finished up my turbo LS swap earlier this year and decided to swap the th400 for a 4L80e. Transmission makes a difference too. If youre wondering how to measure for a drive shaft with two pieces, follow these steps: Begin by putting the weight of the vehicle on its springs. Registered: Mar 2001. posted 10-09-2002 08:45 AM. F350 (dana60) front driveshaft spec is 41-3/8 long measured flange to center of ujoint, while F450 is measured 36-1/4 from center of inner ujoint to center of ujoint. Thread starter xitabl442; Start date Jul 12, 2011; G-Body Make/Model Specific. Will I need a stronger driveshaft to prevent breakage?Denny's Driveshafts: If your engine is making more than 500 hp, you should strongly consider upgrading the driveshaft and universal joints to a larger and stronger size or series. Ford Cars Driveshaft Lengths Chart/List 77Pinto Posting Freak Posts: 1,736 Joined: Feb 2001 #1 10-09-2016, 03:50 AM I have been able to find charts/lists from other manufacturers with spec.s of driveshafts used on all their cars, as well as lists for Ford trucks, but not cars. 1350 High Angle 35 degrees ONE-ton U-joints. Features: 8" Long, 28 Spline Transmission Yoke ; High Quality, Maintenance Free Spicer U-joints; Fully Balanced; Direct Bolt in; Ready to Install . QA1 JJ-21204 Carbon Fiber Driveshaft, street Applications, 45.5 Inch Long. In general, tighten the U-bolts to about 17 lb-ft for 1310- and 1330-series U-joints while 1350-series U-joints should be tightened to 20 lb-ft. CC: Are U-joint girdles much stronger than traditional U-bolts?DD: Yes and no. REAR CV KITS FITS FORD 208,205, 203, ATLAS, and ALL SHORT SHAFT KITS. Please notice this is a brand new message board, and you must re-register to gain access. I know.. That is what confused me as well lol I will just have to see how much it costs to get it to fit on my car. new ujoints, balanced, checked for straightness,etc. 4) If you buy one of the damaged ones you found it should cost less than $100 and take maybe 2 or 3 hours to have it re-tubed at a local machine or drive line shop. Add to Cart-7%. Carbon fiber is a type of material that will not transmit vibrations as readily as steel. If You want to know exactly which driveshaft You have then the best thing to do is contact a Ford dealership. If the 77 had a 7.5" rear in it instead of the 8.5 that the 75 probably had, the pinion would be farther back in the car and require a longer driveshaft. HRP. In extreme cases, the internal spline can twist, which will bind up the slip movement of the yoke. The U-joints must angle at exactly the same time to reduce unwanted vibration or surging as it rotates through an angle. As anyone knows who has parused the internet for 'Driveshaft Length Charts' or anything similar knows, it's almost impossible to even find ballpark info on general driveshaft lengths. This Driveshaft is designed to fit the 1964-1966 V-8 Mustang with C-4 AND 8" rear end . Aftermarket girdles were originally designed to replace the strap and bolt setup on some GM and Dodge pinion yokes. These drawings will guide you to measure your application correctly to ensure proper fit and performance each and every time. All our drive shafts are shipped via UPS Ground with Free Shipping. With the truck 12 bolt, the center of the axle tube to the center of the U-joint on the pinion yoke measures 11-5/8". does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. Subtract 2 " from this dimension. Special Instructions Unavailable Description Status Not open for further replies. I meant auto trans itself is longer. rear 6'' icons for super duty. Unless you use a short yoke on the rear end, then you can use the 51. CC: Does a carbon-fiber driveshaft transfer less vibration than a steel or aluminum driveshaft?DD: Yes. Go to the Salvage yard and tell them you need a drive shaft for a 87-95 F350 crewcab long bed 4wd. CALL 716-875-6640 for measuring questions. Man, that must be one heck of a discount. I talked to a local driveshaft shop, told him what I wanted. If I can get enough measurements, I'll create a chart that we all refer to. Using a longer yoke on a driveshaft that is too short can lead to vibration and output shaft bushing failure. Contrary to myth, do not measure the driveshaft length with the rearend at full drop. It is 1997 f350 diesel crew cab long bed 4x4 (168.4 wheel base). I am just curious. Then back it " to 1" (or to desired running position). Yeah, thanks for the info. Aftermarket Products Air Intakes, Air Filters & Ram Air Audio & Video Systems, Navigation, Satellite Radio & Mobile Electronics Alternative Fuels, Hybrids & Mileage Appearance & Dress-Up I went to standard auto right near richmond va and told them the length i needed gave them the measurements and it fit perfectly i converted my 2 piece driveshaft to a 1 piece. Some GM parts catalogs have driveshaft length charts, I'll have a look at work tomorrow if I can remember. I need one that is 53-55" length from u-jointcap to u-joint cap. However, the weight savings would be very small by comparison. Our drive shafts come with a one year limited real warranty, If you have any issues within the warranty period you will be taken care of 100%. I need to give up my old school solution to drive shafts and get on board with the current practices. The driveshaft is an often overlooked, yet critically important component of a vehicle's drivetrain. Figure 11: 1350 SERIES C.V. DRIVE SHAFTS STARTING AT $549.00 AND UP. You do not need one full inch to drive the car but you need at least inch to get the rear universal joint to clear the pinion yoke when installing the driveshaft. 98108, ALL OUR STORES ARE OPEN MONDAY THRU FRIDAY 8-5, How to Measure a Four Wheel Drive Driveshaft, Measuring Driveshaft Length on a One-Piece Driveshaft. can occur and disrupt the best-laid plans. Lots of info, but not the info I was looking for. I think it is a good deal. 1; 2; Next. Every aspect of the Ford driveshaft building process is quality controlled to provide the utmost accuracy and balance. I am going to call around on Monday and see how much it will cost to get it shortened. Obviously, I should have paid more attention to bed length and ext cab vs. regular cab. You must log in or register to reply here. I have a crew cab long bed diesel 4x4 that I'm converting back to a manual transmission from an automatic transmission. I called my local shop (only one w/in an hour I think) and they charge $106 for a balance only, $125 for a shorten and balance. Copyright violations will be vigorously pursued - Read our Copyright Notice. Everyone knows that tires need to be balanced, but they don't think it is as important for the driveshaft. R. I figured if we could put together a thread with the lengths of stock vehicles that are a close fit to our custom lengths, then, in a pinch or for a spare, we could grab one out of a junkyard. It seems that if i can take off the center bearing off the front driveshaft and take the first section off the rear driveshaft, I could switch them because they are now the exact length but in the wrong spots. Rather, have the vehicle sitting on a level surface and resting on its own weight when taking measurements. Custom Driveshafts. We research hundreds of models each Once you have added your driveshaft to your shopping cart proceed to step two. Denny's Driveshafts is a leader in building heavy-duty driveshafts for high-powered street cars as well as for all-out, drag-racing vehicles. Trucks with a higher tow rating need a thicker diameter driveshaft. If you are in the process of building a new race car it's best to wait until the final phases of construction before getting a driveshaft, as experience has shown that transmission changes, etc. Next, measure from the center of where the center bearing attaches to the frame to the center of the universal joint in the rear end. 2007 Ford F650XL-18ft Refrigerated Body/Thermo K. Price : CALL. CC: When putting an automatic transmission in Reverse, sometimes a loud clang sounds like its coming from the driveshaft. Now take your measuring tape and measure from the center of the U-joint cap hole in the slip yoke to the center of where the bearing attaches to the frame. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. Not always. Copyright 2023 Driveshaft Store. Seattle, Wa. That shaft is $123, painted and new U-joints. Now it is a ZF5S-47 transmission. This way you all ways get the correct measurement, because the end are stander parts, and weld to the shaft. Bolting the rear joint in place will give you 1/4" clearance, and when you put weight on the rear wheels, you'll get even more clearance. If it was a '94 5.0, it should be the same length. Drive shaft length needed. A lot of the driveshafts listed give w to w and overall lenghts so I kept looking until I found one close, I still had to shorten it though (successfully thanks to info from the hamb). DOM (drawn over mandrel) tubing is a better choice for strength and DOM also provides improved balancing. The guy I bought it from measured it and it was 58 1/8" long. PROPER driveshaft measurements are different depending on what type of output is on your transmission / t-case as well as the collapsed/extended length. We have CV type driveshafts for all Flat Flange Ford Transfer Case equipped vehicles. Dorman Drive Shafts Sales Flyer. $172.54 /kit. Driveshaft tube diameter is 3.5" x.083 wall HD. Check if this fits your Ford F150. Driveshaft, Balanced, Assembled, Rear, Steel, Length 93.310 in., Diameter 3.500 in., Ford, Each Part Number: RNB-946-767 Not Yet Reviewed Estimated Ship Date: Dec 28, 2022 (if ordered today) Free Shipping Special Order $871.99 Add To Cart Compare Wish List Dorman Driveshafts 938-802 10min north of Eldora Speedway . 1965-71 FORD Reproduction Driveshafts 1965-66 Mustang Reproduction Driveshaft Cart Account 1965-66 Mustang Reproduction Driveshaft $485.00 SKU: DR2020 Availability: In Stock | FREE Shipping on all orders over $50 Shipping: Calculated at Checkout Select your Mustangs year and Drivetrain Pick one. ). Our equipment is custom length so we cannot build 2 piece drive shafts with the Carrier Bearing or Anything over 75" in length. -2000 3.8L TKO600, 1.8 60ft, 8.71 @ 81mph, Just the length of the shaft. Most everyone reading this knows of a friend who has had a driveshaft built, modified, or rebalanced and has had to take it back numerous times because it never ends up right. To prevent vibration at all speeds, drive shaft balancing weights are welded to the shaft. A vehicle with a flat-style pinion flange will need much less travel for installation purposes. We have designed the best measuring sheets in the industry. I was pissing around thinking about using a junkyard 'shaft on my Ford. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. From dragzine.com. Measure the width of the U-joint cup on the rearend housing yoke. Use M1-7 if a flat flange at differential. 1966-68 full size Fords with 352 or 390 C6 Auto would have the same length driveshafts. Jul 29, 2006 807 63 Saint Henry, Ohio. So, after crawling under just over 50 Cars, trucks etc at the local Upull, I found that a 1995 2wd 2.3 Ranger has the correct length driveshaft at 47.5". The girdles were helpful on those applications but are unnecessary for U-bolt yokes. Rating * Name *Email *Review Subject *Comments 1 Review Hide Reviews Show Reviews 5 Driveshaft. Posts: 1669From: Manhattan Beach, CARegistered: Jan 2000. Most of our team members have been working on driveshafts for over 25 years and would be happy to help you over the phone. The driveshaft length for the ford f150 is 78.8 Inches. now the problem is currently it has a 8.2 10 bolt. So, after crawling under just over 50 Cars, trucks etc at the local Upull, I found that a 1995 2wd 2.3 Ranger has the correct length driveshaft at 47.5". If the driveshaft can be installed, with no weight on the rear wheels, then you are good to go. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. These replacements reduce vibration and unsprung/rotational weight giving your Fox Body a smoother ride and quicker acceleration. Is this a weak link?DD: Seam tube is very strong, but when a thin wall stock driveshaft is overpowered it will break. 2996134 1974 3.25 43.29 727,833 8-1/4 318 360 Barracuda. I think a 75 inch long shaft would be right. Standard Spicer Type Drive Shaft with 1310 half-ton U-joints -- $210. Drive shaft measuring gets easier with a one-piece driveshaft: Start by making sure the weight of your vehicle is on the springs. Does anyone know exactly how long our driveshafts are? You must log in or register to reply here. 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